Gov-Acc Pipeline.

user : What are the options? assistant : Great question! There aren't predefined options - I'm here to learn about the governance challenges **you're** observing from your perspective as a tooling provider. This could be anything you've noticed or experienced, such as: - Technical challenges (voting mechanisms, identity, participation tools) - Process issues (proposal workflows, decision-making bottlenecks) - Participation problems (voter apathy, delegate accountability, accessibility) - Coordination failures (misaligned incentives, communication breakdowns) - Implementation gaps (passed proposals that don't get executed) - Measurement difficulties (tracking impact, defining success) Or something completely different that you've encountered in your work. What governance challenge have you seen that you think is worth exploring? user : So with Greenpill, I think, generally, with most digital communities, the main thing I think most people struggle with is coordination, structure, and this kinda understanding where the line is. What is where what's the what's the healthy dynamic between different human relationships? Because different people have different perspectives and personalities and focuses and bandwidth. And in a digital context, it's very tough to calibrate that because you don't know people from a sense of the you know, where they live, where they're from. They could have a different background, culture, etcetera. So I think that tends to be a strong friction point that there's this a lot of unknowns that then makes it hard to create a large space that serves a whole, that it's a space that people could be a part of that makes them feel whole. And this because then you're trying to serve a lot of interest, so it becomes very difficult. assistant : ### What evidence or examples demonstrate this is a real problem? For instance, have you seen specific situations at Greenpill where this calibration challenge led to breakdowns - maybe conflicts that emerged, people leaving, initiatives that stalled, or patterns in how coordination attempts played out? user : Yeah. In Greenpill, I think I've been able to see different perspectives from different angles. One being, like, more participant, journey joining as a member, and seeing how, who was leading things and how things were kinda coordinated and done from a government's perspective. And then as I kind of, transcended and grew into leadership, myself also navigating, some of those challenges, I think, the big challenges comes with commitment, process kind of, alignment, and especially when you're working with minimum funds or no funds at all. Becomes very hard to gauge value and and ownership. And then everybody's left feeling like they're getting the short end of the stick. And, yeah, it could cause an issue to to stall and things and and definitely has slowed down green pill, at points. I won't say it's always been negative. I think at times, that's part of the tension we wanna navigate in this space. It's not meant to be, you know, not what just, you know, perfect all the time. So, generally, I think though, mostly it's conflict on ego, and just kind of just wanting to get credit and and just kind of, yeah, just not having alignment on what what things are what what, you know, what what things are valued. assistant : Would you like to share another governance problem, or should we move on to exploring solutions and who's working on them? user : I think one thing to add to this, though, I don't I think the stuff I was just talking about, I think, is age old age old, you know, issues that a lot of organizations and communities deal with. They tend to get more complex in the digital context because of, like I said, the lack of a local familiarity and a physical connection. But I also think there's a lot of technical challenges in the way our platforms are built today. Just onboarding and using, the tools we have are are not always easy. And I think that introduces a lot of burden, and introduces a lot of fatigue quickly over time that builds up. So I don't think it's a thing to fix right away, but it definitely plays a part, in kind of inhibiting and slowing down experiments, I would say, to get to more coherent validations of the architecture and the, tooling and parameters we're and mechanisms we're building, for coordination. assistant : ### What specific governance challenge or problem are you observing? When you mention the technical challenges and onboarding burden - what specifically are you seeing break down or create friction in governance processes? user : Just fatigue. If there's a lack of incentive, if there's no funding, then it's really hard to get people to con continuously participate in voting, when there's a friction of having to do multiple transactions or just these things that, are just, like, compared to web two UX, it's just things that you just don't think about. So I think that's a big thing for sure. And just and then this this typical UX issues, I think. You can't really blame all the developers and stuff because I think a large just a larger space and the issues with account abstraction and kind of making that better. And it has improved, but still not to a point that I think it needs to be, to enable a more optimal, tool usage and voting experiences on chain. assistant : ### What evidence or examples demonstrate this is a real problem? Have you seen specific instances at Greenpill or other communities where this friction led to measurable drops in participation, failed votes due to low turnout, or people explicitly citing these technical barriers as reasons for disengaging? user : Yeah. Greenpill, we've definitely seen, I I I wouldn't say we've seen, like, a big drop. We haven't really ever been too big of a network. And when we were maybe a little bit bigger growing earlier on, we had we weren't that much on chain and using too many tools. So I think it's it just gets it just it just reduces it creates this kind of effect where the admins have to put a lot more effort to get people to participate, which then increases their burnout, which which then makes them not wanna do things less. So this creates that kind of vicious cycle when people are participating less, when the tooling has so much friction and and getting people to do it is really like a thing. Like, okay. This person asked me to do it, so I'll I'll do it for them. And, yeah, we we don't want to be doing that anymore. assistant : Would you like to share another governance problem, or should we move on to exploring solutions and who's working on them? user : I think there's one thing to add here, and then we can move on to solutions would be around impact reporting. I think that's another area that's been very difficult. I I wouldn't say it's all in governance, but, compliance and verification and being able to document. Blockchain has enabled a lot of that. I think we've only really looked at it narrowly through the lens of finances when there's a lot of things that we could attest to and kind of have provenance to things being true. So I think that's something that, is a issue in our space that could be improved. I would say it is downstream of the others to a degree, but it's just as relevant. assistant : ### What evidence or examples demonstrate this is a real problem? What specific situations have you encountered where the lack of proper impact reporting or attestation created issues - maybe difficulty proving work was done, challenges with accountability, or problems securing continued funding? user : Yeah. I think it it has to mainly do with getting more funding. I I don't know a lot of times if it's proving the work we've done. May maybe it's the quality of the work. I think a lot of times we could prove something happened and didn't, but it's more the quality and kind of the tracking of, the shift of the you know, shift of things over time. What are the outcomes? And, impact reporting itself to give more coherency around that. So I think, that's that's the main issue. There there are tools. And then the and then the friction point where there are existing tools like Karma, but there's friction with having to use markdown and these tedious formats to then manually upload, especially for people that are mostly mobile based, and they don't have access to desktop. So this introduced a lot of friction. assistant : Would you like to share another governance problem, or should we move on to exploring solutions and who's working on them? user : Let's move on to the solutions and who's working on them. assistant : ### What approaches, tools, or mechanisms could address the governance problems we've discussed? Share any potential solutions you're aware of or have considered - these could be technical tools, process innovations, research directions, or organizational approaches. user : Well, I I guess, you know, sometimes it's you it's it's always best that the problems you face, you typically could know how to solve best. So within Greenpill, it's in particular, the Greenpill Dove Guild, we're building Green Goods, which is a impact reporting, platform, built on built on, arbitron, currently deployed on arbitron that, supports, a testing using AES to attest to work on chain, and then take that work, get it approved, and then be able to bundle that work into hypercerts as impact certificates. And then with those hypercerts, have a capital formation mechanism with often vaults where funders could put funds into the vault, and the yield that is generated is used to create a soft buy pressure for the impact certificates as well as, other distributions for, operational work on a daily, weekly basis. So, really, it's really connecting impact reporting the capital formation. There's some governance and coordination aspects with, conviction building and gardens to where, every green goods garden is a garden's conviction building community so that gardens and the different members are able to participate in, signaling pools as well as funding pools where they're able to signal how much, shares of Hyperspace should be bought in and things of that nature. And, yeah, we so it's kind of, you know, what we believe is very on a ground focused, like local initiatives. And, really, what it is is, up until this point in the in the current space, it hasn't really been, kind of mobile first driven, friendly UX experience for people to do impact. There have been other, applications, but Greengrass is very accessible because it's just a browser app. You can, access it via link, and download it as a PWA. It works fully offline. It is, like, local first with just the on chain aspect. We have no API where we're storing any personal data. We have a, indexer to query data from the blockchain. So, I think, yeah, you know, there's other tools. I think I mentioned within Green Goods the tools for integrating, the tools I've mentioned separately as well. So I think to me, that's the solution, and I'd love to see if there's more out there. assistant : ### Which teams, projects, or researchers do you know are actively working on these solutions or related governance innovations? This helps us map who's contributing to solving these challenges. user : Greenfield, Greenfield Network, the Greenfield Dev Guild, Greenfield Chapters. A lot of us are people in the space that, aren't, you know, experts in a lot of things, but we we know a lot of different, technologies and primitives. And just by being in the space for the past few years, we've learned a ton and have become, some of the most, well versed and well researched and well sourced people in the space when it comes to understanding, on chain governance and, how that correlates to decision making and coordination. So I'd say, yeah, there's also the, of course, Alo, Gitcoin, Refinedau, Regent coordination, Region Commons, that are also working on, OpenCivics that are working on some of these issues. assistant : Would you like to share more solutions or identify additional actors working in this space, or should we move to wrapping up? user : Let's go ahead and move move to wrapping up. I think I've generally shared most of the things I'm assistant : ### Thank you for mapping governance challenges and solutions Here's a summary of your contributions: **Problems Identified:** 1. **Coordination and calibration in digital communities** - The challenge of creating healthy dynamics between people with different perspectives, personalities, and bandwidth when you lack physical/local context about who they are 2. **Technical friction and UX barriers** - Onboarding difficulty and transaction friction in Web3 tools compared to Web2 experiences, compounded by account abstraction issues 3. **Impact reporting and attestation gaps** - Difficulty tracking quality of work and outcomes over time, with existing tools creating friction (especially for mobile-first users) **Evidence Provided:** - At Greenpill: Issues with commitment, process alignment, and value/ownership when working with minimal/no funds, leading to ego conflicts and credit disputes - Admin burnout cycle: Low participation due to technical friction → admins work harder to get participation → increased burnout → less initiative - Funding challenges: Difficulty proving quality and tracking outcomes over time, with tools like Karma creating friction through markdown requirements that exclude mobile-based participants **Solutions & Approaches:** - **Green Goods platform** - Impact reporting built on Arbitrum using EAS attestations, bundling work into Hypercerts, with Oven Vaults for capital formation (yield creates buy pressure for impact certificates) - **Gardens integration** - Conviction voting for signaling and funding pools within each Green Goods garden - **Mobile-first, local-first design** - Browser-based PWA that works offline, no personal data storage, only on-chain indexer **Active Contributors:** - Greenpill Network, Greenpill Dev Guild, Greenpill Chapters - Allo (Gitcoin) - RnDAO - Regen Coordination / Regen Commons - OpenCivics Does this summary capture your main points accurately, or would you like to clarify or add anything? user : The summary does to a degree. I think, I see Arendelle mentioned I would remove them. And I think when I say solutions, I didn't mention the Greenpool Garden, which is something we've been doing in the Greenpool Network, which is this, season long incubation where we're, forming more coherent, phase of change, bad strategy, good strategy, conefin, frameworks, and kind of, getting more, coherent and coordinated. So I think, to me, that is, one of the key approaches, which is more on the human relationship building side, conversation, protocols. So, because right now I see this tooling being mentioned as solutions, which is it's a second part of things, but really the the the build key comes from the shared language. I think shared language would be the the key thing to take away here. Shared language enables so much in compounding network effects, and ability to speak coherently with trust and care. assistant : Thank you for those clarifications. Let me update the summary: ### Thank you for mapping governance challenges and solutions Here's the revised summary of your contributions: **Problems Identified:** 1. **Coordination and calibration in digital communities** - The challenge of creating healthy dynamics between people with different perspectives, personalities, and bandwidth when you lack physical/local context about who they are 2. **Technical friction and UX barriers** - Onboarding difficulty and transaction friction in Web3 tools compared to Web2 experiences, compounded by account abstraction issues 3. **Impact reporting and attestation gaps** - Difficulty tracking quality of work and outcomes over time, with existing tools creating friction (especially for mobile-first users) **Evidence Provided:** - At Greenpill: Issues with commitment, process alignment, and value/ownership when working with minimal/no funds, leading to ego conflicts and credit disputes - Admin burnout cycle: Low participation due to technical friction → admins work harder to get participation → increased burnout → less initiative - Funding challenges: Difficulty proving quality and tracking outcomes over time, with tools like Karma creating friction through markdown requirements that exclude mobile-based participants **Solutions & Approaches:** - **Shared language as foundation** - Building coherent frameworks and conversation protocols that enable trust, care, and compounding network effects - **Greenpill Garden** - Season-long incubation process using phase of change, bad strategy/good strategy, Cynefin frameworks for human relationship building and coordination - **Green Goods platform** - Impact reporting built on Arbitrum using EAS attestations, bundling work into Hypercerts, with Oven Vaults for capital formation (yield creates buy pressure for impact certificates) - **Gardens integration** - Conviction voting for signaling and funding pools within each Green Goods garden - **Mobile-first, local-first design** - Browser-based PWA that works offline, no personal data storage, only on-chain indexer **Active Contributors:** - Greenpill Network, Greenpill Dev Guild, Greenpill Chapters - Allo (Gitcoin) - Regen Coordination / Regen Commons - OpenCivics Does this better capture your contributions? user : Yep assistant : Thank you for participating in phase 1 of gov/acc research, Afolabi! Your insights on the importance of shared language and human relationship building as the foundation for governance - before the tooling layer - will be valuable for the research roadmap. The work you're doing at Greenpill to bridge these human coordination challenges with accessible, mobile-first technical solutions addresses a critical gap in the space. Your contributions will be synthesized with other participants' input to inform the visualization and workshop at EthCC. 🌱